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Post by Members Posts on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:24 am

We covered a discussion on coward punches earlier and on, and this story when it broke last new years eve. The perpetrator has received 9 years jail. I this enough for killing someone? To me, it's murder, and being under the influence of alcohol, or any drug, is no excuse.

What are your thoughts?

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/punch ... 0p1b4.html



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Post by Members Posts on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:24 am

Because he pleaded guilty to manslaughter he got a reduced sentence. The new law which now applies is a mandatory 10 years I believe. Coward punch very aptly named.



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Post by Members Posts on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:25 am

He killed someone and gets 9 years, pardon the pun, but that's murder.



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Post by Members Posts on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:25 am

was astounded to hear that the usage of the drug Ice, has increased by 122% in NSW alone, that is a staggering increase! What is happening to people today? It's not just the young ones that are destroying themselves, it is the older ones as well.

Those figures are for know cases, but what about the unknown cases on a nation wide basis? Something is a miss in society today big time, as the first problem the experts say is the family breakdown, sure, that doesn't help.

However, there are a lot of users who had a descent upbringing and a good family background as well. So what is the problem? A question that no one seems to have the answer to.

I would like to know all your opinions on this as all of us have been around for a while and have seen a lot of changes in our society, so what are your thoughts?


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Post by Members Posts on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:25 am

Tell me about it! My son who uses Ice, was an excellent sportsperson, had a University education, owned his own business, and was in a stable relationship....now spent all the money from the sale of his business, can't even live in his car any more as it was repossessed, and who knows where or how he is now.



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Post by Members Posts on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:26 am

You listen to all the so called experts and discussions on TV, but the main points seem to be hypothetical. The problem I feel runs far deeper than just the family unit, as Pk has pointed out. It seems that there is a definite fear of standing up alone and making decisions for themselves instead of being conned by the "in" group.

Peer pressure is just one of many, but I believe it goes far deeper than that as well. Since the advent of heroin in the sixties, their has been a steady increase of users, noting that drugs have been used in one form or another throughout history, but not to the extent of self destruction as it is today.

I believe that there is a mental defect or degradation in society that stems back to the sixties, where as the mind has evolved not being able to cope with life in general because of drug dependencies. Having said that, I am being hypothetical as well, but the problem is to common amongst users and their reasons for using illegal drugs to be a coincidence.

With the increased amount of children born to users or ex users, I believe we really have to think about this. Something has changed in the brain structure of these people over the years, and their mental attitude, which is very contagious and persuasive amongst society in general, especially the young people....."I'm a bit stressed at the moment, life's terrible so I'll go on a high, I can't cope"

A dead end street then addiction, and for many it is the beginning of the end.



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Post by Rbjustme on Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:54 pm

Victims of family violence will now be able to apply for intervention orders on line, which authorities are hoping to prioritise such cases and streamline the hearing process.

Good or bad?

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victoria-launches-new-online-application-forms-for-intervention-orders-20151202-gldfp2.html

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Post by Peacekeeper on Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:34 pm

Historically intervention orders have been treated with disdain by some serial offenders, just because they are in simpler language does not mean the perpetrators will not break them.
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Post by Rbjustme on Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:20 pm

I had similar thoughts, and it's the policing of them that where the problem is. I have no idea how to improve the policing of such orders, because you need trained personal with experience in domestic violence to do it, other than increasing police numbers.

Budget restraints prevent this from happening (so they say) but I believe that if governments really had their priorities in the correct order, it could be done, and rather easily.

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Post by Peacekeeper on Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:48 pm

Instead of flying off on boondoggles, the money would be better spent training more police and trying to get this dreadful scourge of domestic violence. Governments need to listen to the people who vote them in for a change. Frustrated
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